Episode 19: An Interview with Max Lind

In this episode, we have a lengthy no-code round-up where we talk about SquareSpace, Stacker, No Code Report, and so much more! After the round-up, we have a great interview with the fantastic Max Lind!

Show Notes

  • 0:20 - Intro
  • 0:37 - We're joined by Parker Thompson!
  • 1:20 - No Code Report from Parker Thompson
  • 3:39 - Squarespace 7.1 Tweet (tl;dr, Squarespace went more cookie-cutter, which hurts agencies/freelancers)
  • 7:44 - Squarespace's Response Tweet
  • 8:40 - Noah Raskin's Tweet and Code Crumbs tutorial
  • 9:07 - Code Crumbs
  • 9:43 - Shout-out to Bart!
  • 10:00 - Sarkis's tweet about No-Code Roulette Video Call
  • 11:50 - No Code Meetups
  • 12:15 - NCM is by Joshua Tiernan
  • 12:20 - No Code Founders
  • 12:33 - Glide added Rollups
  • 13:11 - Glide can now trigger a workflow in Zapier!
  • 13:45 - Ben's hot take on Airtable 🔥🔥🔥
  • 14:45 - Was there any integration between Zapier and Glide before?
  • 16:47 - Joe + KP are doing free no-code experts session each week
  • 17:36 - Draftbit launched Custom Screen Code
  • 18:05 - Draftbit's use-cases for Custom Screen Code
  • 19:17 - Andrew Wilkinson's Tweet on Webflow
  • 19:35 - Makerpad Students graduated from Bootcamp
  • 20:15 - Sebastian Hoffman's Subscription Manager app in Adalo
  • 20:50 - Sebastian's Product Hunt post + download the app
  • 21:55 - Jordan Singer's Genie Plugin for Figma
  • 22:39 - Stacker App - A UI + Auth Tool for Airtable and Salesforce data
  • 23:36 - Matt's first-hand experience with Stacker
  • 25:12 - Stacker raised $1.2M Seed Round
  • 26:11 - Dash Dash partnered with Makerpad
  • 26:45 - Andrew Davison and Luhhu's YouTube Channel
  • 27:05 - DevSync (visual style editor for codebase) (Product Hunt)
  • 28:20 - We might split no-code round-up off?
  • 28:41 - Tomorrow, No Codies voting ends!
  • 29:11 - Podcast changes ー Include Her!
  • 29:55 - EPISODE BEGINS - An Interview with Max Lind
  • 29:57 - Max's Experience: GM at 8020 (Tiny Capital), Designer News, Head of Partnerships at Dribbble, Field Marketing Manager at Abstract
  • 30:39 - When Andrew approached you about running a no-code agency, what were your thoughts?
  • 31:05 - Max mentions Chris Sparling, Managing Partner at Tiny
  • 32:03 - What's the reaction been like in the creative world for a new agency using mainly no-code tools?
  • 35:00 - What type of clients are you particularly talking to? Are these like small businesses, the SAAS companies, these enterprise level companies?
  • 36:25 - Has it been difficult to navigate pricing as a no-code agency?
  • 40:01 - Do you always let your clients know you're using no-code tools?
  • 42:19 - What's 8020's no-code tech stack?
  • 43:37 - 8020 relies pretty heavily on Figma and Webflow
  • 44:14 - 8020 also uses Carrd for smaller web projects
  • 45:46 - Max is watching Bravo Studio App
  • 46:10 - Max is also watching Draftbit
  • 46:28 - Max/8020 has played around with Bubble, Glide, and Adalo
  • 46:32 - If it exists on Makerpad or No Code List, Max has given it a go
  • 47:30 - How does 8020 prioritize which products to use and try?
  • 49:24 - Max: "It seems like Dash Dash can do some really interesting things"
  • 50:00 - Max and 8020 really love Webflow
  • 53:00 - Does 8020 shy away from using code or Developers?
  • 56:16 - Maybe no-code is a bad way to define this space
  • 57:14 - Have you found it challenging to find no-code talent to hire?
  • 59:14 - Max shares some of the struggles of finding people to work with 8020
  • 1:00:38 - Max's perspective on how a rising tide lifts all boats with regard to more people in web development
  • 1:00:54 - Lacey talking about client experience with traditional development versus no code development
  • 1:03:05 - Is having a job as a no-coder a thing, and if so, what type of skills are you looking for?
  • 1:04:12 - Max is looking for a generalist
  • 1:06:05 - Max likes people who dabble
  • 1:06:57 - Do you think hiring generalists is a long-term play for 8020?
  • 1:08:53 - Does 8020 get pushback because clients can't own a no-code solution?
  • 1:13:01 - A Tiny Capital backed agency definitely brings legitimacy to the space
  • 1:14:47 - Tiny Capital similarities to Gary Vaynerchuk model
  • 1:18:03 - An 8020 Skunkworks?
  • 1:20:35 - What gaps does Max see in the no-code space?
  • 1:25:45 - No-code inception
  • THE END

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